July 14, 2010

Pay Markets in the 'Sub-SemiPro' Range...

I'm posting this here instead of at Fantastique Unfettered because --while I have FU in mind-- this is my point of view and in the process of considering a related subject --editorial vision-- I realize that my definition for editorial success in terms of quality content cannot essentially be equal to 'what I like' or 'what I think'.

So, FU and Nithska are two separate entities.  The one is a periodical of 'fantastic fiction' that I will edit initially, the other a tool for helping to connect readers to my writing.  While I'll probably never write a 'bad-ass chick kicking supernatural booty' tale, FU might publish one, if it seemed to do something interesting in that sub-genre (which as become a glut on the SF aisle shelf of late).

In researching what others have to say about editing and publishing genre fiction, I've come across ideas that challenged my preconceptions (VanderMeer in particular has some great thoughts about editorial vision being more than 'stuff I like'), and others that I feel conflicted about.  In particular I'm thinking of the ruckus around comments from John Scalzi last year, essentially skewering the entire 'sub-semipro' pay markets.

The fact is I agree: writers should get paid for their work, and paid well.  SFWA pro rates, in real world terms, are laughable.   $250 per pop for a 5k word story is not bankin'.  As an IT guy, I could do far better doing extra contract work in my spare time than what I make writing stories, even if I were making pro rates on every sale, which I'm not.

I'd rather write stories.

I get why a writer at Scalzi's level has this attitude.  He makes a living at the gig, and is well-paid for his work. Why should he consider anything less?  The 'pay markets' look ridiculous from his point of view.

More than that, they undermine an already shaky publishing world, making it harder to support markets that charge for content and in turn pay pro rates.

And yet...

Scalzi's path is impressive and to be admired.  It's not the norm.  I don't think anyone should settle for less (send your story to the highest-paying market you feel will accept it, and work down from there).  I'm also of the opinion that a sale is a sale,  though if you are going to let something go for a token amount, I'd suggest you do so with an outfit that you believe is worthwhile, doing interesting things, and going to improve with time.  "Ah, he's grinding his little pay-market axe."  Well, just a second...

I have not made a professional sale yet, so it is a fair counterpoint to say, "Of course THIS GUY's going to like the so-called pay markets."  Snarky, but fair.

I've worked hard to get whatever skill I might have as a writer.  I placed in the 'top twenty' of Brain Harvest's Mega Challenge (according to the editors) and have received feedback from pro-level editors telling me the writing is good enough, but it's just not the one for them. Since form letters are the norm, I take them at face value.  It's also a fair statement to say that I may not have exhausted all the pro markets a given story might have fit before moving on to semi & pay markets.

Mistake or not, selling that first story to Byzarium --for instance-- was pure ecstasy.  Call me a fool: I was quite happy.  The Fourth Horseman is not a story I've looked at recently, so when I do to create the link, I might feel that it is not as refined a story as I would now write.  But it's honest and an interesting tale, and told well enough that I'd stand by the statement that it would not jump out from rank inadequacy if sandwiched between a couple SFWA pro's work.

There is good fiction out there that is getting turned away from the pro markets and eventually finding a home in the nooks and crannies of the short genre fiction ecosystem.  Writers should be paid, and paid well --I can rally around that--, and the 'mom & pop's of the publishing world have their place.

I liken it to the 'Cathedral vs. Bazaar' dichotomy applied to the fiction markets.  There is nothing inherently wrong with the Cathedrals.  But I can't open one.  A little shop in the bazaar?  Yeah, that I can set up and do some good work and pay my artisans good money in turn.  It's a bottom up approach instead of top down.  It means I have to build up the business (unless the grant or other funding comes through).  While I agree with much of Scalzi's point of view, the part that I don't is this sense that only big businesses or the people with deep pockets are entitled to serve fiction to readers.  That's as ridiculous as 'pay markets'.

But how do you reconcile these two?

Fantastique Unfettered is my answer.  The $10 token rate you'll see now on the guidelines is about to be replaced by something better.  It still won't be what I want it to be.  But this I can promise you: paying writers good rates is the back-end primary goal for FU (the front end goal is serving readers great fiction).  See the grant proposal linked from the recent blog post.  Look at the plan described therein to see what we would like to do.  We have more funding efforts in the offing.

Now, through the time that we incorporate as a nonprofit, we will run it with the integrity expected of such an enterprise.  Through that time (maybe beyond it), this is funded and ran by a few people with a vision, but this is not a hobby.  It's a passion.  That might sound silly and worthy of the scorn of people making .37 cents a word for their fiction, but I'd suggest there is room for the markets paying that sort of rate, and for emerging markets like M-Brane SF & FU.

Expect 'pay markets' to strive to pay authors competitive rates?  Spot on.  Small press efforts unable to pay pro rates out of the gates should pack it in: elitist.  



 

5 comments:

  1. Dean Koontz said something once, along these lines:
    "If you think it's not about the money, you probably have rich parents and richer grandparents." (that's a paraquote) He's right. And, I'm the anomaly, the minor talent from a wealthy family. I go out of my way to avoid pay markets, negotiate for contrib copies instead when I'm bought. I don't need the money. As a byproduct of not needing it, I don't believe creativity is something one should be paid for exhibiting. I'm against funding the NEA. I think Curt Flood ruined baseball. I think no one "owns" a copyright. But then again, I believe in a fascist World-State. So, I'm hardly the norm.
    Writers will never make "enough" to quit their day jobs (very few); if one never hits the Lottery, like good Mr. King, it comes down to a) love of the Craft, and b) sticktoitiveness. Nothing more, nothing less. That often, those who shine in both produce the thickest literary pap (I'm speaking post-Boomer, here), is a problem. Silk purses are made of silk, if you get me. The Arts are not a Charles Atlas course. However, if a person clears a hurdle, any hurdle!...well, then? *Pay the individual*. In fact, I say, the Hell with set rates of any kind, and would insist on negotiation, as I do. Those who price themselves out the market, who can't or won't compromise, deserve what I got when I tried to hike my lawn-mowing rate on my stepdad: Nothing.
    Writing, if one gets past its initial, faceless phase when beginning, is half-schmooze. This could be best taught in pay-negotiation. The weakness in my idea is obvious, but it's one Society had best correct: Writers and Editors need to be honest with themselves and with one another. Cards on the table, Herr Oberst. Tell one another everything. Omit nothing. I say this, because what you've got otherwise, is a lot of terribly dedicated, hard-working scribes of sad, sad prose and poetry, who would tell you they're no Ellison while still secretly believing they are, and editors who are beating their temples bloody, wondering why every zhlub wants eggroll for nothing, and why no zhlub can follow guidelines.

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  2. Cee,

    Thanks for stopping by. I'm not sure how to take your comments, if they are offered in seriousness or hyperbole or something else entirely. I will take you at face value and assume you mean each of these statements.

    That clarified, I'd say that I agree with Koontz (And how did you get me to say that!?), it is about the money. 'Needing it', as you state here, is beside the point. In a free market society, monetary value matters. Bottom line.

    On the flip side are all the reasons already covered why markets exist that pay token rates or 'sub semi pro rates' to writers willing to make that bit of coin.

    Money matters, the art of it matters. I'm happy to get paid on my writing, and I want to get paid MORE rather than less as time goes by.

    I'm FOR funding the NEA, and absolutely believe that creativity should be paid as much as it can demand. Hell, let's pay all the poets and writers like football stars and let those guys make 'pro rates' on their work. Probably would be a better world. But the market is what it is.

    I don't believe in fascism (corporate ran world-state? no thanks).

    Last, respectfully, writing (I think you really mean publishing) is not half-schmooze. At least not with the M-Brane Press publications or any of the publications I've dealt with. Writing is just about writing. The best you can do --and I've posted at length what one can do, in my opinion to improve--, to get to the heart of some matter, to make people think, most of all to entertain. Publishing, getting published, is not a social hour, if you are cool enough or witty enough you get in. No. It's about the words, the stories. It's about a tale that changes the way you see the world, or clouds your eyes with tears, or just makes you smile or shudder. A story doesn't need to be a certain thing, it just needs to do what it means to do better than others like it. And the competition is stiff.

    The editors I know do not look at their submitters as zhlubs, and they all hope to find that story that puts Ellison to shame. Dream Big. No harm in that. A lot right about it.

    Anyway, I respect your opinions, but I want to be clear where I stand, especially in reference to FU.

    B

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  3. Okay. Well, you know I don't agree. I also don't believe you respect my opinions. Fact is, and to spell it out for our readers, here, I'm a "monkey in the wrench", to quote John McClain, and a certain face must be presented, right, that those scribes on the fence not begin to question. There are all kinds of fascism, you see...although a "corporate world-state" is not among them. I can see we live in vastly different America's. Yours has too many jackboots. Mine has too many overalls.
    NOW: That was awfully rude of me, wasn't it? Are you, therefore, going to buy from my wares? I think not. You won't like their perspective--*because, you don't like my perspective, Here*. Writing--and publishing, which is your end, not mine...we define almost everything differently, don't we?--is indeed social. Following guidelines is social. Proper presentation is social. The editor of Talebones (when it was print), said in WM, "Be humble." What is that, but schmoozing? If we "work together"--which has ever been slang for "the editor is the boss"--then, I'd better be hat in hand, and following all beeps and buzzers. Very Fritz Lang, if you ask me (fascism?).
    Writers, whether paid well or paid little, provide a service no greater or less important than the plumber who fixes our sink or the salesman who sells us shoes. I'm not into being paid for falling off a log, for reasons already stated, it's not my thing...but, it is *some* people's thing, and a check that wouldn't keep me in cheddar cheese pizza for the summer, is, to many others, a delight. More power to them, and more power to your pubs, the whole brace of them, yes! I support their right to exist (your books and how they balance, is your business, not mine). But, then, let's not get sticky about it. Editors *are* an elitist breed, you know that, you'll laugh about it over a colortini with your editor friends this week and call me a name when you do so! Said rep didn't derive from a vacuum. PR is one thing; set pay rates--competitive or otherwise--is one thing. This "tears and smiles and Dream Big" stuff...I do apologize to you, I've not read your *whole* site. Are these pubs for young readers? Any answer beyond a simple affirmative, lends a certain...do you not know?
    I wish you well, truly I do. I'm a believer, and all my Life, in the small pub...but, you can't allow yourself to become so threatened by one Snidely Whiplash like myself, you feel it necessary to bury me and your potential (Ellison's? You're kidding) in a literary act of absolute faith...because, it either *is* an act, preemptive at that, Geraldo crying, "Sunlight is the best disinfectant!", all for appearance and future liquidity...or, you are a Pollyanna of proportions so vast, mind you don't touch any levers! You'll wind up in a pre-caveman Geico commercial.
    Final Answer, Rege? Those who don't come to you as Guitar Heroes of the Arts, will *not* be published, much less paid. And, you know that. They must show attention to detail, and as told, must obey. If you're brusque, they daren't offer complaint, and tears are, in the industry, for sissies. I'd love to believe that the sole idol bowed to is The Quality of the Art, but, as in fascism or any governmental structure--even the one I'm guessing your professors taught you to prefer--everything comes down to someone's enforceable opinion. You say the relationship in publishing is "not social". By saying so, you think you are liberating the writer to play his minimum of game...or, *he* thinks that, anyway. He believes it and he acts on it. He then comes to you, and finds out what you "really" meant. Trust in this: You serve us better, if we may look you in the eye.
    Burma Shave.

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  4. Hmmm. Rejoinder is still nowhere...
    Okay. I peep. You're one of those bloggie-types utterly incapable of NOT stepping up on every comment left (bit of a control issue, Junior)...and, since I had turned it into a private war--nominally--you bailed through censorship. *That*, my New Age friend, is what's wrong with sci-fi, fantasy, and what's wrong with our world in 2010...which, you'd claim it was the, uh...*ruthless* manner of my approach. Yes. I'll concede I'm too hard, and that puts me one up on you, unpronounceableforeignname, because you'll *never* admit you're too soft. A lot of so-called "men" are, these days. I'm certain you'll sell hotcakes.

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  5. 'CEE' you're obviously not happy with what you find here. Best wishing finding something more to your liking.

    B

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